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July 21, 2021

11: Impression Management in Abusive Organizations with Wade Mullen, Part 1

Author, speaker, and professor, Dr. Wade Mullen, joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about impression management. In 2018, Mullen earned a PhD in leadership and did his dissertation on how evangelical organizations use impression management strategies in the wake of an image-threatening event. He specifically focused on Mars Hill Church, Sovereign Grace Ministries (now Sovereign Grace Churches), and Bob Jones University for his dissertation. In this episode Mullen shares the red flags of organiza...
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July 7, 2021

9: How We Realized We Were in an Unhealthy Organization, Part 2. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan

This episode is part 2 of the conversation that Amy Fritz and Melissa Hogan started in the previous episode. Amy shares more of what she was seeing in Ramsey Solutions that felt very similar to news of scandal with other Christian ministries and leaders. In this conversation Melissa and Amy talk about over two dozen resources they found helpful in recognizing and processing abusive and/or unhealthy organizations, understanding the hurdles whistle-blowers have to telling the truth, and the voices...
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June 30, 2021

8: How We Realized We Were in an Unhealthy Organization. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan

Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan for a conversation about how they realized they were connected to an unhealthy organization. Melissa is an author of the upcoming book Afraid of the Doctor. She's also a lawyer, rare disease awareness advocate, and she consults on clinical trial design and patient outcome measures. In other words, she's brilliant. Amy and Melissa met when Melissa's husband at the time, and Nathan, Amy's husband, were working at Ramsey Solutions. In this episode they talk a...
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May 12, 2021

5: Promoting A Goodness Culture in the Church. Guest: Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer

Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer join Amy to talk about how Laura encouraged Scot to use his platform to speak up for the women who had been abused by Bill Hybels and how they later wrote a book together to advocate for healthier church communities Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode Bill Hybels scandal What lead Scot and Laura to write a Church Called Tov Advice for ministry leaders Culture change dynamics Wounded Resisters The cost of spe...
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April 21, 2021

2: Pastoral Plagiarism and Part 2 of Colleen's Story

On Episode 2 of the Untangled Faith Podcast, Dr. Gary David Stratton joins Amy Fritz to discuss pastoral plagiarism. Mary DeMuth joins us again to talk about what healing looks like on the other side of spiritual abuse, and we hear the second part of Colleen's story of what happened after discovering that her pastor had plagiarized hundreds of sermons. Links: Episode 1: Recognizing Spiritual Abuse and Part 1 of Colleen's Story Honesty Matters: The Problem of Pastoral Plagiarism Ask Bob: What sho...
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April 14, 2021

1: Recognizing Spiritual Abuse & Part 1 of Colleen's Story

On the first episode of The Untangled Faith Podcast, Amy has a conversation with author and speaker, Mary DeMuth about the characteristics of a spiritually abusive environment. We also hear from the first in our series of wounded resisters as Colleen shares part 1 of her story of discovering her pastor was hiding a big secret from their congregation. Show links: 10 Ways to Spot Spiritual Abuse | Mary DeMuth A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promot...
March 29, 2021

Introducing the Untangled Faith Podcast

If you've ever found yourself hurt or disillusioned by your faith journey and wanted to hold onto your faith while untangling it from all the things that aren't good or true, this is the podcast for you. We're sharing the hard and hopeful stories. We're talking about what happens when deep hurts collide with our faith experience. We're exploring what it means to be a wounded resisters hanging on to our faith. And we're talking about what hope looks like on the other side. Join us for season 1 ...