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Dec. 1, 2021

24: Our Ramsey Story, Part 8: Just a Shot Across the Bow

Greg and Lauren Thoman join Amy to share their account of how their lives were upended by Ramsey Solutions leadership in May of 2020. This is the 8th episode in this series about Ramsey Solutions. Patreon Membership Communit...

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Nov. 24, 2021

23: Our Ramsey Story, Part 7: Shots Fired

Nathan and Amy talk about the lengths Ramsey Solutions leadership went to in their attempts to silence them, including gathering up their friends to malign them and reaching out to their current employer. Patreon Membership C...

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Nov. 17, 2021

22: Our Ramsey Story, Part 6: Cut the Ties. Send a Flare into the Nig…

Nathan and Amy share about the the year after Nathan resigned from his job at Ramsey Solutions. Links: Julie Roys Podcast Michael Hyatt Podcast Organizational Narcissism and Virtuous Behavior I Got Your Six Leaving Ramsey So...

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Nov. 3, 2021

20: Our Ramsey Story, Part 4, The Got Your Six Meeting (1 of 2 episod…

Amy Fritz and Melissa J. Hogan dissect the Ramsey Solutions "Got Your Six" team meeting that was held in May of 2019 soon after Amy's husband, Nathan, resigned. Patreon Membership Community . Full Audio of the Got Your Six Me...

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Nov. 3, 2021

21: Our Ramsey Story, Part 5: The Got Your Six Meeting (2 of 2 episod…

Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy to respond to Dave Ramsey's characterization of Melissa and Melissa's marriage in a meeting he led for all of his team members in May of 2019. This episode may be triggering to people who have expe...

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Oct. 27, 2021

19: Our Ramsey Story, Part 3: Everything Falls Apart

Nathan and Amy talk about what happened when Amy's friend suddenly stopped communicating with anyone and how Amy's determination to make sure her friend was okay led her to stumbling across information that led to the end of ...

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Oct. 20, 2021

18: Our Ramsey Story, Part 2: Spies, Cash, Fear and Rich People Habits

Amy and Nathan Fritz share part 2 of their experience with the Ramsey Solutions Organization. In this episode they talk about: Differences in accepting the culture between spouses who marry in to the company as opposed to th...

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Oct. 13, 2021

17: Our Ramsey Story, Part 1, Hoping To Be Chosen

Amy Fritz shares part 1 of the story of their family's experience with Ramsey Solutions, Dave Ramsey's Company. Article Amy went on the record for in January 2021. Ramsey Solutions Interview Process . Entreleadership book . P...

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July 28, 2021

12: The Cost of Being a Bystander Who Speaks Out & Impression Managem…

Dr. Wade Mullen joins Amy for the second part of their conversation about impression management in Christian institutions. They talk about the cost of being a bystander who chooses to speak, Mullen's hope for the future, and ...

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July 21, 2021

11: Impression Management in Abusive Organizations with Wade Mullen, …

Author, speaker, and professor, Dr. Wade Mullen, joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about impression management. In 2018, Mullen earned a PhD in leadership and did his dissertation on how evangelical organizations use impress...

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July 7, 2021

9: How We Realized We Were in an Unhealthy Organization, Part 2. Gues…

This episode is part 2 of the conversation that Amy Fritz and Melissa Hogan started in the previous episode . Amy shares more of what she was seeing in Ramsey Solutions that felt very similar to news of scandal with other Chr...

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June 30, 2021

8: How We Realized We Were in an Unhealthy Organization. Guest: Melis…

Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan for a conversation about how they realized they were connected to an unhealthy organization. Melissa is an author of the upcoming book Afraid of the Doctor. She's also a lawyer, rare di...

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May 12, 2021

5: Promoting A Goodness Culture in the Church. Guest: Scot McKnight a…

Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer join Amy to talk about how Laura encouraged Scot to use his platform to speak up for the women who had been abused by Bill Hybels and how they later wrote a book together to advocate for healthier church...

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April 21, 2021

2: Pastoral Plagiarism and Part 2 of Colleen’s Story

On Episode 2 of the Untangled Faith Podcast, Dr. Gary David Stratton joins Amy Fritz to discuss pastoral plagiarism. Mary DeMuth joins us again to talk about what healing looks like on the other side of spiritual abuse, and w...

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April 14, 2021

1: Recognizing Spiritual Abuse & Part 1 of Colleen’s Story

On the first episode of The Untangled Faith Podcast, Amy has a conversation with author and speaker, Mary DeMuth about the characteristics of a spiritually abusive environment. We also hear from the first in our series of wo...

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March 30, 2021

Introducing the Untangled Faith Podcast

If you've ever found yourself hurt or disillusioned by your faith journey and wanted to hold onto your faith while untangling it from all the things that aren't good or true, this is the podcast for you. We’re sharing the ha...

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